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May 24, 2013


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A message to ~Charliebear97

Fri May 24, 2013, 6:18 PM
If you are going to lie, then please shut down google first.…
Yours =…

Literally the first image.

Although I will say that I am sorry for responding rather unprofessionally, I will not however apologize for the content of my work. Like personal taste for what makes good and what is acceptable art, there is a line between pin-up and porn. To you anything showing cleavage instantly constitutes porn, you even said that in a piece with an uncovered breast from the side was not porn, even though this is technically more perverse.

In a tizzy rage you did not see the satire of what I did on your deviation, my comment was hyperbolic, but it is somebody's opinion. To you two teenagers kissing is innocent and cute, but to somebody else this is a precursor to teenage sex and underage porn. This person is insane no doubt, but what I deem oversexed is very different to you.

But I will say what provoked me into responding so viscerally, is how blatantly disrespectful you were. If you were not insulting my work you took to insulting my character and whilst I did embelish by saying Allira was my girlfriend (she's a girl and we are friends, so technically not talking out my ass), the content of my work is not driven by deprivation. I'm not very socially competent and the lifestyle to have a "girlfriend" doesn't mesh with me, whilst the short term emotional gains would be nice, they would soon turn bitter as I would not be able to meet her needs and then she would be found in pieces under the floor boards with Pascale the Mexican pool cleaner.

For me the female body is something I enjoy drawing, it's a pleasing form and it's a challenge to get a even mix of stylized and realistic. If I had a girlfriend this would not change, but my art would focus to her as it has Allira over these many years. In a note from your "boyfriend" you indicated that my many drawings was a sign of unfaithfulness to her, but yet you failed to notice that all the pictures you took issue with were of the SAME PERSON. I won't deny my feelings for Ali, but I want what's best for her and she wants whats best for me. I don't want to muddy the best friendship I've got by throwing ugly walrus sex into the mix.

The argument of having a boyfriend or girlfirend has no signifigant standings with me as a point of debate, if they were your wife or husband I might take you more seriously. But the fact that you manipulated/were manipulated by somebody else to fuck one another, then I don't consider that a crowning achievement, that's what people have been doing for over 4000 years.  I'm confident I could, if I lost a lot of weight, got a nice paying job, go through some good amount of brain surgery, and significantly lower my standards I could finally make myself "equal" in your world view. But I'm not going to do that, that boat had set sail years ago and I faced the obvious logical conclusion that I would be alone for the rest of my life, but that's the way I like it. I'm not pushing my needs onto somebody else and I don't expect somebody to fill them.

But once again, I'm sorry for twisting the truth or lying by omission and Allira's feelings of this little 'debacle' is; "why did you feed the troll? The girls a fuckwit, WHY?" She's trully the voice of wisdom, the Pinky to my Brain.

But what provoked me into responding was from besides you inability to spell was your churlish naivete, where in one of your earlier comments you said that my work defied the "innocence" of anime. I'll let the readers process that one. Judging from thr ripped off Disney work and the poorly drawn Kingdom Hearts piece, you are confusing anime with disney cartoons, surely the likes of Satou Shoji, Makoto Uno, and thousands of others defy this. Not to mention the shows like Ghost in the Shell, Psycho Pass, Gantz, Witchblade, Fullmetal Alchemist, are all championed for their innocence.

Your inability to judge the socially acceptable line however is more concerning, attacking somebody for having anything remotely sexual takes greater precedence over confronting them politely and respectfully. If you simply aksed me politely to give the old piece of mature filter, I might have done it sooner. But you wanted to only say one thing and the contempt and lack of care to not even spell "disgusting" correctly, provoked me into taking the piss.

I'm no Christian (atheist actually) but I'm a firm believer in do onto others. You treated me like scum of the Earth, so once I was done trying to be democartic, I decided to get down onto your level, which is where I admit my mistake. I should have left you alone and read between the lines to see the draconian beliefs underneath that will never change.
I don't want to go out and "find somebody real to fuck", because I'm afraid I'll meet a psychotic prude like yourself. Just like how I could tell you to go find a real cudly animal and play with it/stare at awkwardly whilst breathing heavily suspiciously, but then they probably run away from you, like a natural disaster.

In closing I would have rather this be a note to you personally, but after your blitzkrieg on my profile, you insisted on blocking me (beating me to the punch). Which stops me from contacting you, but stops you from contacting me, so it all works out I suppose. I don't like pointing out assholes to the masses, as once I abused my popularity and a poor fellow was castrated for a simple misunderstanding, but with you I'm not misunderstanding you in the slightest.

So to those who are reading this publically, sorry for wasting your time, unless you found this an entertaining read. Please pass this on to Charliebear97.
Finally sorry for responding like a dick, but I'm not going to apologize for drawing "porn". I hope the padded cell is going well for you and your "boyfriend".

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  • Playing: Sly 4, DmC, Metal Gear Rising, Tom Raider, etc
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axelslight Featured By Owner May 29, 2013
Mark, I love you. I got quite a kick out of reading this and I have to agree with you on many of the things you said. What I find quite hilarious is the fact that she continued to view your art even though she did not like it.
GangrelRaziel Featured By Owner May 27, 2013
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Mental13 Featured By Owner May 26, 2013
The "innocence" of anime eh? She clearly doesn't understand the fact that there's shows made for various age groups. Some that could be considered "innocent" as well as others that are about as innocent as the goriest slasher flick you can think of. There's hentai as well -but I'd rather not go there. Those can be pretty twisted, nasty, and sickening all-in-one.
Elberik Featured By Owner May 26, 2013
Am I the only one who finds it hilarious when 15-yr-olds pass judgement on pin-up art?
emofoxofdarkness Featured By Owner May 26, 2013
I believe that art, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. Which by extension means that nobody has the right to criticize someone else's artistic works, or taste. THIS BITCH, on the other hand, simply defies logic and probably a few too many medication warning labels. She OBVIOUSLY just traced the damn picture, changed the colors, and added a few embellishments. And then she had the audacity to attack both your work, and self in an EXTREMELY immature and morally stunted manner. Bitch needs help. And talent. And a smack to the face. With a tire iron.
emofoxofdarkness Featured By Owner May 26, 2013
Also, since when has anime been innocent? There's sex, drugs, murder, and bad morals in anime of almost every genre.
Nikolai-Bartolf Featured By Owner May 25, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
A very amusing read. 2 thumbs Way up for you. :D
And hey, if this message doesn't do anything, what it defiantly DID do, is give you a good writing topic. xD
I want something like this to happen to me (not really) so that I can practice my writing!

Anyways, keep up the straight forward thinking, Your views make you one of my new Idols :3
Gear001Mrk2 Featured By Owner May 25, 2013
While I do agree with her that maybe your talents could be better spent on something less... provocative (and your work on Collateral is a testament to that talent), she's pretty damn idiotic to come at your from such a crass angle. She's a bit an idiot that doesn't understand artistic license or personal preference.

Should there be a limit? Well, there's definitely a line, but one so blurred by our society I can't see it anymore. But your work is safely tucked away in your own little pocket of Deviant Art, so I have no fear of it 'corrupting' anyone.

You're a good artist, she's an idiot, even if some of her points may have merit, she presented them in every single worst way possible. Dig your heels into her Mark!
CPT-HAZE Featured By Owner May 25, 2013  Student Digital Artist
So what drawing was she smashing?
Cryophase Featured By Owner May 25, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
A twelve-year-old Disney tracer was immature enough to insult you?! It's the end of the world, release the white knights! :nuu:
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